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Physical Meeting Docket for April 10, 2010 (Saturday):
Standford Room

Breakfast        7:30 8:30 a.m.

  1. Self Introduction (45 minutes)
  2. Report by The Treasurer (10 minutes) Jing-Li Yu
    Income/ Expenditure of 2009
  3. Membership Report: 2009 summary, and 2010 projection (10 minutes)   Suzanna Lin & S. B. Woo
    1. 2009 membership:  Suzanna Lin
    2. A Rough Projection for 2010:  S. B. Woo
  4. Required Meeting Procedure: Robert's Rules of Order (10 minutes.) Hilary Hsu
  5. Budget for 2009 and Personnel Matters    (10 minutes) S. B.

    10:00 a. m. :  BREAK FOR 10 MINUTES

  6. Is Adding the Immigration Issue to 80-20's goals a good idea
     -- adding Asian Am. Life-tenured federal judges  (10 minutes)  S.B.

  7. Update on the 2nd of the Obama Commitments to the Asian Am. Community-- adding Asian Am. Life-tenured federal judges  (10 minutes)  S.B.

  8. Update on the 1st, and more importantly, of the 2nd Obama Commitments to the Asian Am. community -- the enforcement of E.O 11246 (40 minutes)  S. B. & Chenming Hu

  9. How to help the 800,000 Asian Am. government employees (federal/steat/local) who are NOT covered by EO 11246 to win equal opportunity in wrokplaces?  (10 minutes)  Linden

  10. Which side will 80-20 help in the 2010 election? (15 minutes)
    1. 80-20 PAC's Traditional Standard for Helping a Political Party In An Election.
    2. Board Discussion

    Press Conference for Ethnic media
    Time:  Noon till 1 p.m.
    Location:  Stanford Room, Crowne Plaza Hotel, Foster City, CA

    1:00 - 2:00 P.M.: LUNCH (Chit Chat Room, Atrium Café)
    All Affiliate Heads (VIPs) & reporters are invited
  11. Do we still intend to look at "equal opportunity to enter first tier universities" now that EO 11246 seems to be enforced for us? (10 minutes)

  12. The experience of a successful chapter (30 minutes) Yueh-Ting Lee

    3:30 p.m.: BREAK FOR 20 MINUTES

  13. Is Unity a must for a small minority like the Asian Ams.?   (10 minutes)  S. B. Woo

  14. Know 80-20 -- the Successes and Failures of 80-20  (1 hour)

  15. Agenda item 15 is confidential for 80-20 Board Members & staff only. (1 hour)

Meeting Recessed


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1. Self Introduction:

Executive Committee.: Kathleen To (Immediate Past President), Yuko Nakanishi (Secretary), Jing-Li Yu (Treasurer), Linden Nishinaga (Nominations Comm. Chair), Roy Saigo (Fundraising Comm. Chair), Charles Zhang (Election Monitoring Comm. Chair), S. B. Woo (Acting Exec. Director)

Other Voting Board Members: Fel Amistad, Ved Chaudhary, Beverly Hong-Fincher, Hilary Hsu, Laura Hsu, Chenming Hu, Alice Huang, Yueh-Ting Lee, Edward Lin, Kim Song, Lena Tam, William Uy, Joel Wong, David Yang.

Non-voting Members (Chapter Presidents): Cecil Fong of Houston 80-20, Steve Yang of Mid-MO, Tina Liu Jen of 80-20 New Jersey, and Cody Ding of 80-20 St. Louis

Staff: Suzanna Lin


2. Report by the TreasurerJing-Li Yu

                                2009 Budget
1) Membership (including new Life Members + Voluntary
 Contribution from members + Fundraising from Life Members)
Total                                                                                         $89,899*
2) Reimbursements from EF [(staff time & internet usage) +
    Board dinner (for 2008)                                                         $4,159.98
3) Interests Received                                                                 $1,629.59
Total Income 2009                                                                     $95,688.57

* (3 year members: $27,742.5; Life Members: $20,700)

1) Payroll (Helen, Suzanna, Paychex & Misc. pay-related fees)   $62,317.06*
2) Payment to ISPs & internet-related consultant fees                 $7,772.29
3) Political Contributions                                                            $5,850
4) Meeting Expenses
 a) Board meeting  (banquet for Affiliate leaders &
     Life Members, staff travel & lodging, small press
     conference before meeting)                                                  $5,261.24
b) Conference calls                                                                   $526.60

5) 80-20 OH NW Chapter dues reimbursement                           $1,374
6) Bank Fees (including credit card handling fees for YourPay     $3,073.94
7) Taxes and Fees                                                                     $1,300.35
    a) Federal Income Tax (paid for 2008 but paid in 2009)            $1,095.35**
    b) Misc. DE state fees and franchise tax                                $215
8) Miscellaneous                                                                       $874.07
Total Expenses 2009                                                                  $88,349.55

* Helen and Suzanna overlapped for 3 months.
** Tax is paid based on Interest statement from bank, which includes CD interest.  It is always 35% (Tax Statement Amount - $100 deduction).

SURPLUS of                                                                            $7,339.02

Total cash on hand                                                                    $171,547.90

Note:  To see the names of those who have donated to 80-20, and the detailed expenditure by PAC for 2009, please visit,
http://images.nictusa.com/pdf/381/10990254381/10990254381.pdf#navpanes=0 (pdf)
It is the Federal Election Commission (FEC) to which 80-20 PAC makes at least semi-annual reports.


3. Membership Report: 2009 summary and 2010 projection (10 minutes) Suzanna Lin and SB Woo

i) 2009 Membership Summary Report: Suzanna Lin

Total Membership: 2084

A) Membership by Type:


Membership Type

% of Total Membership





Life Members





MembershipCatagoryB) Membership by Category:

Membership Category

% of Total Membership











C) Membership by Options:

Membership Options

% of Total Membership

1-yr membership


3-yr membership


5-yr Autorenewal





That is, roughly 1 out of every 3 of our membership is either on multiple-yr subscription or is a Life Member, helping to stabilize our membership.  The DANGER is that if 80-20 disappoints its membership, it'll not be reflected in a decrease in membership as quickly.


    ii). A Rough Projection for 2010:  S. B.

   Members From 2002 to 2209 are:
YEAR:    2002   2003   2004   2005   2006   2007   2008   2009
Members:1600   2010   2013   2150   2050   1450   1600   2084

   In 2010, we hope to reach 2151 members, while adding 20 new Life Members.

By 3/31/09, we already have about 1500 members with ZERO new Life Members. Many Board members have the capacity to recruit Life Members.  I hope that I can get some commitments this morning.  If 5 Board members will commit to recruit 2 each, we'd have achieved half our goal.  Our income this year is going to be very low.


4. Required Meeting Procedure -- Robert's Rules of Order (10minutes):   Hilary Hsu

What one needs to know to chair or participate effectively in a meeting,
whether it's an 80-20 committee meeting or a university Board meeting
or a Fortune 500 stockholder's meeting.  A 2 page summary of the key
motions has been emailed to you.  Please review, if necessary.


5. Budget for 2010 & Personnel Matters (10 minutes):  S. B. Woo

A)  Projected 2010 Budget


1. Membership Dues (20 new Life Members & 2151 regular
     members)                                                                                          $ 47K*
2. Interest from the reserve fund of $160K                                          $ 3K
3. Special fundraising events grossing $45K & costing $20K?      $ 45K(?)
4. Misc. Contributions                                                                           $ 5K
5. Re-imbursement from 80-20 Edu. Foundation for sharing
    staff & mass emailing expenses
    (about 15% of 45K + 6K)                                                                  $ 5K
Total:                                                                         $ 60K to $105K

* The dues may seem small.  This is because 1/3 of our members are
either multi-year members or Life Members who have already paid their dues


1. Salary and benefits for Suzanna Lin                                               $ 48K
2. If the Board gets involved in the 2010 Cong. Election                  $ 10K
3. Payment to ISPs & e-mail related consultant fees                        $ 7K
4. E-mail consultant                                                                               $ 1K
5. Equipment & Postage                                                                      $ 1K
6. Meeting & traveling Expenses for staff & fundraising                   $ 3K
7. Printing cost & Phone Bills (conference calls)                               $ 1K
8. Unity Fund (donations to sister orgs & AsAm political
    candidates for the purpose of forging a unity)                                $ 10K
9. Overhead for fundraising events grossing $45K (?)                     $ 20K(?)
10. Misc. (recognitions awards, Board expenses, etc.)                    $ 4K
Total                                                                            $ 76K to 105K

     RESERVE AT THE END OF 2010:                        About $170 K
Our independent sister org., 80-20 EF, has a reserve of about $90K.

The sum of the reserves is $260,000 which is 3 times the annual expenditure.  Most orgs have only 1 yr. of financial reserve.

B)  Staff

   The staff situation is stable and satisfactory.


10:10 a. m. :  BREAK FOR 10 MINUTES


6. Is Adding the Immigration Issue to 80-20's goals a good idea? (30 minutes)  S.B.

   a) the "+ & -" of adding the immigration issue to 80-20:

On the + side:
It is an issue that 3 types of our members care about:
i) Younger members who has just gotten their citizenship & who want to get their relatives in;
ii) Ethnic-towns merchants who want larger no. of new immigrants, &
iii) Large business owners who want more H1B & H2B quotas.
   They are the members whom we need to focus on if we are to enlarge our membership. There are also those who are not our members (having temporary visa only) who want our help to get them to be immigrants.
   Other ethnic Asian communities, being mostly later immigrants, may care more about the immigration issue than the Chinese Ams, who may represent 65% of our members.  The newer immigrants don't care as much about equal opportunity issues.  They care mostly for immigration issues only.  So it is a way for 80-20 to introduce itself to these communities via our effectiveness.  Can we use this opportunity to form alliance with the nat'l orgs of those communities?

On the - side:
i) People who care deeply about immigrations issues are mostly NOT our members now.
ii) Some of the DC based Asian Am orgs. may resent our entrance into the immigration issue, unbelievable as it may seem.  Can we turn a negative into a positive?

b) What the pending Immigration Reform is all about

The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007, or, in its full name, the Secure Borders, Economic Opportunity and Immigration Reform Act of 2007 (S. 1348) was a bill discussed in the 110th United States Congress that would have provided legal status and a path to citizenship for the approximately 12 to 20 million illegal immigrants currently residing in the United States. The bill was portrayed as a compromise between providing a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants and increased border enforcement: it included funding for 300 miles (480 km) of vehicle barriers, 105 camera and radar towers, and 20,000 more Border Patrol agents, while simultaneously restructuring visa criteria around high-skilled workers. 

   c) 80-20 may want to keep an eye on the family reunion aspect of the reform bill.  
     It is the right thing to do.  It may enrich the components we
     Need in our membership.

   d) The decrease of EB2 and EB3 visas affecting immigrants from China.
   According to documents released by the State Dept., people of Chinese nationality got only 246 EB2 in 2009 visas while those of Indian nationality got 7234.  We can make an inquiry, if a Bd. Member is willing to do that.  Supposedly, a group is suing the State Dept and the Dept of Homeland Security on that.  Ask me for more details. 


7. Update on the 2nd of the Obama Commitments to the Asian Am. community -- adding Asian Am. Life-tenured federal judges  (10 minutes)  S.B.

(1) A dramatic increase in the number of Asian Am. life-tenured federal judges!
From      6 District judges and 0 Appeals Court judge to
            12 District judges and 2 Appeals Court judges.

APA judge table

WARNING:  Confirmation of Goodwin Liu, 劉弘威, only 38 in age, may be rough.  Once confirmed, he could be a future Supreme Court Justice.  Are we to take a strong stand in his confirmation fight?  We'll have to at least help some.  I've not studies the battle yet.  It could hinge upon 1) what kind of track record Liu has in helping the Asian Am. community, and 2) whether we can truly make a difference in changing one or more of the GOP senator's vote.  We've heard positive reports from Chenming Hu and Dale Minami.  We want to hear more if you have the information.


8. Update on the 1st, and the more important, of the 2 Obama Commitments to the Asian Am. community -- the enforcement of EO 11246 (40 minutes)

a) How much have the Asian Am odds of being promoted to managers/ administrator improved relative to national standards during the second 5-year study
       (from about 2002 to about 2007)?  (10 minutes) Chenming

   b) Working with OFCCP, DOL & what we need to do ourselves
       (30 minutes) Chenming & SB

       i) Reply from OFCCP Director, Patricia Shiu, to 80-20's formal
          confirmation of its understanding of what has been agreed upon
          in a DOL meeting on January 11, attended by Shui and key aids &
          Chenming Hu and S. B. Woo, President, 80-20 EF.

    As we all know this affects about 2.1 million Asian Ams working for the big companies and universities.  It deserves our keen attention.  The key
portion of Shiu's letter is shown in blue.  The part which 80-20 is seeking
clarification is shown in green.

"Dear Mr. Woo:

It was a pleasure meeting with you and Professor Hu on January 11, 2010.  I appreciated the issues and concerns you raised.  I believe that stakeholder input is crucial to OFCCP’s efforts to effectively carry out its mission of enforcing equal employment opportunity and affirmative action in the workplace.

As you requested, I am offering the clarification below to portions of your meeting summary.  The information below may be shared with others.

OFCCP intends to enforce Executive Order 11246 on behalf of all protected persons, including, but not limited to, Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders (AAPI).  OFCCP will broaden its enforcement efforts and focus on identifying and resolving both systemic and individual discrimination cases.  The review of individual cases of discrimination will include harassment, retaliation, termination, and failure to promote.  Individuals who are protected by OFCCP, including AAPI, are encouraged to file a complaint if they believe they have been discriminated against by federal contractors or subcontractors.  OFCCP takes very seriously its responsibility to eliminate any vestiges of discrimination in the federal contractor workplace; therefore, members of the AAPI community, including members of your organization, are encouraged to contact an OFCCP office in their area to file or report potential discriminatory employment practices by federal contractors or subcontractors.

While I applaud your work in championing for the rights of AAPI, I respectfully decline your offer to request additional authority from the President.  As stated above and reiterated during our meeting, OFCCP intends to enforce Executive Order 11246 on behalf of all covered persons, and no additional Executive Order is necessary. 

In closing, I wish to highlight two items that may be of interest to members of your organization that I mentioned during our meeting.  First, OFCCP is committed to increasing its workforce representation of AAPI within its ranks.  In addition, OFCCP is recruiting bilingual Equal Opportunity Specialists to conduct compliance evaluations.  Second, OFCCP has initiated the process to revise 41 CFR Part 60-4 regulations by evaluating all of its provisions and exploring the affirmative action goals (16 specific steps) to ensure equal employment opportunity for women and minorities in the construction trades.  This process also involves ensuring that the regulations reflect the legal parameters for federal affirmative action programs.  As part of the process, OFCCP is conducting three Town Hall Meetings [Chicago on February 2nd – 5th, San Francisco on February 16th – 17th, and New Orleans on March 17th – 18th] to 1) highlight OFCCP’s anticipated regulatory activities; 2) offer a critical opportunity for stakeholders to provide suggestions and recommendations to OFCCP; and 3) provide information on how stakeholders can participate in the official rulemaking process.  

Very truly yours,

Patricia A. Shiu"

OFCCP replied to our second seeking of clarification, dated March 3, on April 7.  WE are very pleased to see the following clarification which means that OFCCP may use the statistical evidence to enforce EO 11246.

OFCCP has the unique ability to engage in compliance reviews of federal contractors and subcontractors, even in the absence of a complaint. 

      ii) 80-20 needs to use everything possible, including a) its mass emails, b) press conferences and c) the formation of Asian Am. coalitions, to focus on the implementation of the enforcement.

   Political offices and executive branches are pulled and tugged daily from so many directions.  If the Asian Am community and 80-20 let up because of the letters from Shiu, then we are in for a big unpleasant surprise.

   Anyone wanting to head an Ad Hoc Committee to work with me?


9. How to help the 800,000 Asian Am. government employees (federal/state/local) who are NOT covered by EO 11246 to win equal opportunity in workplaces? (10 minutes  Linden?)

   Ask for another Executive Order as recommended by EEOC or focus on continued work with the Senate committee, Chaired by Sen. Akaka?

   Sen. Akaka is the Chair of Governmental Affairs Subcommittee on Federal Government Management, the Federal Workforce and the District of Columbia.


10. Which side will 80-20 help in the 2010 election? (40 minutes)

   A) 80-20 PAC's Traditional Standard for Helping a Political
      Party In An Election.  (10 minutes)   SB

     The relevant statements in 80-20's Bylaws are shown below:

     "7.2 Protocol Regarding General Elections: In the general election,
      80-20 shall endorse the presidential candidate of the political party
      having done the most DEEDS to help APAs achieve equal justice
      and opportunity in the four years preceding the presidential election."

   The principle of looking at "DEEDS helping APAs" in deciding which political
   party to help is very valid.  That principle was used to endorse ALL Dem.
   Congressional candidates (except for 2 particular races) in 2006, when the Dem.
   won both House and Senate.

   B) Board Discussion
     The Board should be aware that we are
     i)  NOT required by Bylaws to endorse a Party in an off-year election;
     ii) If we endorse, then we must put resource behind our endorsement.
         80-20 is NOT a debating society that talks.  It establishes its reputation
         by delivering actions and RESULTS.
     iii) Budgetary implications of our decision, if any.
         S.B. shall recommend a figure, if a decision is made to endorse. 
     iv) Implication to Board members' personal willingness to donate,
          if a decision is made.   NO FREE LUNCH!  We are aware that the
         financial ability of our Board members may differ greatly.
     v) Whether we endorse a Party or not, there will be a press conference
         at Noon, lasting about an hour.  Our VIPs in SF and reporters are
         all invited to join us for lunch so that some of the reporters may
         carry on "in depth" interviews with our VIPS & Board members.


Press Conference for Ethnic media
Time:  Noon till 1 p.m.
Location:  Stanford Room, Crowne Plaza Hotel, Foster City, CA

Lunch (Chit Chat Room, Atrium Café: 1 p.m. to 2 p.m.)

All Affiliate Heads (VIPs) & reporters are invited.


11. Do we still intend to look at "equal opportunity to enter first tier universities" now that EO 11246 seems to be enforced for us?(10 minutes)

The following is in an APAPA e-newsletter.  It is a well funded org. that
may not yet have the full political insight into American politics.

"UC Admission Policy: At our January 28, 2010 meeting the subject was the UC Admission Policy.  Professor Ling Chi Wang (UC Berkeley), Henry Der (California Department of Education) and Vincent Pan (Chinese for Affirmative Action) discussed the adverse effects of the new UC Admission Policy. According to UC, this new policy will increase diversity. However, by UC's own Simulation Study, the net effect of the new policy will decrease: Asian American enrollment by 12% on most campuses; African American enrollment by 27% in 8 out of nine campuses; and Hispanic American enrollment by 3% on most campuses. The adopted policy will have a net effect of decreasing diversity.

APAPA is leading an effort to form a coalition of Asian American organizations to publicize the detrimental effects of the new UC Admission Policy and to explore legal actions to reverse it."

   80-20 has always wanted others to work with us.  Perhaps, we ought to also consider volunteering to work with others. C. C. Yin is a community-mind person with money and determination.  Joel and Cheng Liao know him well.  May be Joel can make a report to the Board on this matter.  I'll communicate directly with him.  Thanks.


3:30 p.m.: BREAK FOR 20 MINUTES

12.The experience of a successful chapter.  (30 minutes)  Yueh-Ting Lee

  Can the national emulate our NW Ohio chapter in the following matter?
If not nationwide, then in the big states or in cities where there are chapters.

"Dear 80-20 NW Ohio Chapter Members and Friends

   I am very pleased to inform you that our 80-20 NW Ohio Chapter has developed a partnership  between your law firm Wagner and Steinberg (http://www.wagonersteinberg.com/ ) in Ohio and Michigan and 80-20 NW Ohio Chapter ( http://www.80-20initiative.net/about/chapters_oh.asp). That is, when members of 80-20 NW Ohio Chapter contact this legal firm for any legal matters, our members will be entitled to a 45-minute free consultation for the first time and will receive 15% discount for any future legal service. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me via email or contact Dr. Fan Zhang at zhangf@wagonersteinberg.com (419-865-1251).



   Do we want an Ad Hoc Committee to arrange a similar deal for our dues-paying member?  If yes, who will want to head this comm..?


13. Is Unity a must for a small minority like the Asian Ams.? (10 minutes)  S. B. Woo

    A) Why is a political unity necessary for a small minority like the
         Asian Ams in a Democracy.
         i) Nature of democracy.  The majority is not kind, if a main interest is
             hindered by a minority.  Recall what happened to the Am. Indians.
             What happened to Asian Am. before 80-20 was organized.
         ii) Is AIPAC a model?  Effective politics requires large numbers.  If the
              number is not large enough, then unity is required.

    B) What kind of POLITICAL unity can we realistically hope for?
         A loose one on major interests only.

    C) How are we to proceed to forge a loose political unity?
         i) Has 80-20 succeeded in forging unity?  NO, except …
         ii) What are the preconditions of forging a unity?
             A pending or real disaster, or great political maturity or
             proven success in defending the community by a dominant
             organization (some internal conflict will be unavoidable
             during this phase.)


14. Know 80-20 -- the Successes and Failures of 80-20 (1 hour)

(A) 80-20 is more successful where the concept of "reward/punishment"
      is directly applicable.  Examples are:
i)  Getting replies to our questionnaires from presidential candidates, at
     least the Democratic ones;
ii) Getting the President's commitments fulfilled
iii) Stopping mainstream political consultants from attacking Asian Am.
     political candidates racially; stopping the GOP's "Daisy" TV ad which
     fans hatred toward China which would have easily spread to Chinese
     Americans; convincing CNN and Seattle Times to correct unfair & 
     inaccurate reporting

(B) 80-20 is not so successful when we don't or can't fight or apply strong
     measures.  Examples are
i)  Establishing a working relationship with sister Asian Am national orgs,
    in spite of repeated out-reaching.  This is a big failure! ;
ii) Increasing membership (to put things in perspective, our membership
    is steady or increasing at tough economics times.  But the absolute
    number of 2,000 is disappointing for a membership fee as low as $35.)
iii) Fundraising (to put things in perspective, we have a combined reserve
     of about $250,000 which is good for 3 years' operation.  Most orgs.
     have a reserve sufficient for one year of operation only.)
iv) Ethnic media -- primarily because they are focused on "old country"
(C) Can we draw lessons from the above?


Meeting Recessed